{"id":395,"date":"2009-05-22T20:45:01","date_gmt":"2009-05-23T02:45:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sherrythomas.com\/blog\/?p=395"},"modified":"2012-02-18T08:10:48","modified_gmt":"2012-02-18T14:10:48","slug":"in-which-meredith-interrogates-sherry-on-craft","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sherrythomas.com\/blog\/2009\/05\/22\/in-which-meredith-interrogates-sherry-on-craft\/","title":{"rendered":"In which Meredith interrogates Sherry on craft"},"content":{"rendered":"

Meredith<\/strong>: Look at any forum devoted to writing and you’ll find a few topics dedicated to the “standard questions” that writers get asked: Where do you get your ideas? How do you find the time?\u00a0 How do you figure out what happens next?\u00a0 How do you manage to actually finish a story?<\/em><\/p>\n

These questions may be standard, but the answers are anything but.\u00a0 Every writer seems to have a slightly (or drastically) different way of working.<\/p>\n

Some of the methods I’ve come across make me white with terror.\u00a0 For example, covering my entire living room wall with color-coded 8×6 Post It notes. Or outlining.\u00a0 Others turn me green with jealousy (ahem: the Shitty First Draft<\/a>).\u00a0 All of them fascinate me. There may, in fact, be something a bit neurotic about the avidity with which I read explanations of methods that I know won’t work for me.\u00a0 It reminds me of that phase in eighth grade when my friends and I used to get together to bake brownies, drink milkshakes, and watch exercise videos.<\/p>\n

Anyway, there’s a specific reason that craft — and in particular, craftly excellence — is on my mind.\u00a0 I’ve just reread Sherry’s new release, Not Quite a Husband<\/em><\/a>.\u00a0 NQAH <\/em>effortlessly blends superb prose, incredibly nuanced characterization,\u00a0 sizzling chemistry, very hot sex, and other manner of high drama (rebellions! potentially fatal illnesses! death-defying treks! many whizzing bullets!) into a moving, dare I say epic<\/em> romance that traverses a not-so-familiar but altogether fascinating part of the world.\u00a0 It’s a tour de force, and since I share a blog with her, I get to ask how she does it.\u00a0 Sherry, brace yourself for interrogation!<\/p>\n

(Sherry<\/strong>: When I first joined RWA–after<\/em> finishing the first draft of PRIVATE ARRANGEMENTS–and heard people mention the RWA craft-loop, I used to think it was women more dexterous than me talking about their macram\u00e9.\u00a0 That should tell you how much I know about craft.\u00a0 So read at your own peril!)<\/p>\n

Sherry, I understand that the idea for NQAH was sparked by a viewing of The Painted Veil.\u00a0\u00a0How do you proceed once you’ve got the seedling of an idea?\u00a0 Do you outline, do you daydream, or do you simply begin to write? <\/strong>
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I am an epic fail as an outliner.\u00a0\u00a0 For doubters I submit the initial outline<\/a> for DELICIOUS.\u00a0 You need to break out a microscope find any similarity between that and the final book.<\/p>\n

I do daydream.\u00a0 And certain scenes of intense conflict play in my head.\u00a0 I think that is one of the best things about the crafting of a story, daydreaming.\u00a0 You see all the sparkling bits.\u00a0 Everything works perfectly and seemlessly in theory.\u00a0 And you conjure all these exciting scenerios.<\/p>\n

And then you have to write it.<\/p>\n

Many years ago, some friends of mine told me a joke about a first-generation translation software.\u00a0 During the testing stage, the software performed satisfactorily in translating words and simple phrases.\u00a0 Then someone got the bright idea to see how well it did with idiomatic expressions.\u00a0 So in went the proverb “The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.”<\/p>\n

And out the other end came “The wine is good, but the meat has spoiled.”<\/p>\n

I often feel like that when I put pen to paper.\u00a0 My beautiful idea, it translates into spoiled meat.
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Are you a fan of the “shitty first draft<\/a>” approach — i.e., do you write without editing — or do you pause to polish as you go? <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

I used to sneer at the shitty first draft.\u00a0 I edit and I polish and I spit shine.\u00a0 And yet somehow I have always, without fail, ended up with an elegantly shitty first draft that makes my editor throw my contract onto a bonfire and drunk-shag her gay best friend.<\/p>\n

Lately I have been reconsidering joining the shitty first draft club.<\/p>\n

What does your writing schedule look like?\u00a0 Do you write every day?\u00a0 Do you have an actual schedule?\u00a0 Do you write for long stretches, or in short, intense bouts? <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

When it’s not publicity season, I do write just about every day.\u00a0 But I am terrible at time usage.\u00a0 I write fifty words and I go visit a gossip blog.\u00a0 Come back write another fifty words and check my mail.\u00a0 Maybe another fifty words and then I’ll look at a romance review site to see what people are talking about.\u00a0 (But that’s the great thing about writing: Once I have smoothed everything out, nobody knows it was written fifty words at a time. )<\/p>\n

When the kids are in school, I work from 8 to 2:30.\u00a0 When the kids aren’t around, I love to goof all morning (8 to 2:30, ha!) and then write till about ten in the evening.\u00a0 (One of my sorely regretted shortcoming is that I can neither wake up early nor stay up late.)<\/p>\n

If you could change one thing about your writing process, what would it be?\u00a0 Also, how has your process changed since you wrote Private Arrangements?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

I would love to stop writing when I don’t know what to do.\u00a0 Just stop, and do something else until I have it figured out.\u00a0 I was able to do that with PA in everyway: five years between first draft and second to learn what I need about writing, then stop and start as necessary.<\/p>\n

What’s changed, obviously, is the arrival of the deadline.\u00a0 It was worst with DELICIOUS, during most of the writing of which I was in grad school at the same time.\u00a0 My first draft was pure filler, just me putting down words to get to “The End.”\u00a0 And roundly rejected as such by my wise and strict editor.<\/p>\n

I am still learning how to pinpoint in advance where my story is likely to go off-track.\u00a0 It’s always hard to judge your own writing, it’s even harder judging it on a schedule.\u00a0 The temptation is always there to just keep writing, instead of recognizing you might have to rework large chunks.<\/p>\n

Do your characters ever “surprise” you?\u00a0 Do you ever experience moments of serendipity when re-reading a draft — that is, do you discover things about the characters from re-reading sentences that you yourself wrote?\u00a0 If so, what surprised you about Bryony and\/or Leo as the story developed?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

My gentlemen always surprise me.\u00a0 Because I go into a book with the heroine much more fully envisioned than the hero, part of my journey is then to figure out who is this man who loves this rather spectacular yet also rather spectacularly troublesome\/difficult\/maddening woman.\u00a0 I don’t know if I get inspired while re-reading.\u00a0 It’s more likely to happen when I’m just thinking about the story, or when I’m actually in the middle of writing it.<\/p>\n

For example, in PA, Camden, until I reached the chapter set in Copenhagen, was more an obstacle in Gigi’s way than anything else.\u00a0 Copenhagen was when I realized his<\/em> loss–and I went back and revised their interaction up to that point to reflect that.\u00a0 In DELICIOUS, only in the third draft did I understand what manner of man Stuart was.\u00a0 His sense of honor drove the story from that point on.<\/p>\n

In NQAH, I wasn’t really completely sure of Leo until the scene with the microscope.\u00a0 (Potential spoiler: On the day Bryony decided to speak to him about an annulment, he brought home a present for her, even though their marriage had been equally terrible for him.)\u00a0 That spoke of his strength of character and his capacity for love.\u00a0 That was the foundation of their future.<\/p>\n

Imagine that you’re asked to guest lecture in a class on writing the novel.\u00a0 The students write in various genres.\u00a0 What aspect of craft would you choose to speak about, and why? <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Conflict and conflict resolution. <\/strong>We are storytellers–or at least we should be.\u00a0 As long as there is strong conflict and an equally strong resolution, we can have a good story.<\/p>\n

There is an Austen-like quality to the openings of your three published novels, in which a wry, nameless voice comments sagely on the events about to unfold.\u00a0 It’s charming and incredibly effective, as is the way you transition very skillfully into deep POV.\u00a0 But what I’m curious about are your thoughts, as both a reader and a writer, on the first-person point of view.\u00a0 Very few romance novelists have used first-person POV with success.\u00a0 Do you think there’s something inherent to the genre — or perhaps specifically to historicals — which makes third-person POV more effective than first-person? <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

The biggest romance of our time has been written in first-person POV.\u00a0 Yes, Twilight<\/em>.\u00a0 So there definitely has been phenomenal successes.\u00a0 And when the generation of girls who grow up with Twilight<\/em> move onto romance, I hardly think they will have much problem with first-person POV.<\/p>\n

I myself am completely neutral.\u00a0 When I saw that there are a lot of readers who don’t care for first-person POV, I was really surprised.\u00a0 To me it’s like writing on paper versus writing on a laptop.\u00a0 It’s just a way to write a story, a means to an end, not the end itself.<\/p>\n

My own contemporary romance–completely a romance, with nothing remotely women’s fiction or chick lit about it–is in first person POV.\u00a0 The beginning of the story had its origin in a quickie writing contest at Dionne Galace’s blog a while ago.\u00a0 And it just so happened that I banged out those 200 words in first-person POV.<\/p>\n

At various point, I’d considered whether to switch to third person.\u00a0 Or whether to add to the narrative with scenes written from the hero’s POV, either first- or third-person.\u00a0 But the more I write exclusively in the heroine’s first-person POV, the more I like it.\u00a0 When a romance is written in the heroine’s\u00a0 first-person POV, you experience the hero much more vividly and directly. \u00a0 He is more mysterious and interesting and sexy, because you don’t get to know his secrets and his innermost thoughts except as they are revealed to the heroine.\u00a0\u00a0 I don’t ever fall in love with my heroes but I’m looking at this one with starry eyes.\u00a0\u00a0 Starry, starry eyes…<\/p>\n

::wipes drool off keyboard; resumes professional demeanor::<\/p>\n

As for why 3rd-person POV is almost universally deployed in historical romance, I think it is a reflection of the importance of the hero’s character development.\u00a0 Thanks to the First Golden Age of Historical Romance writers, the hero’s arc is a huge part of historical romance.\u00a0 And you cannot capture his journey properly from the heroine’s first-person POV.\u00a0 You have to show it from his POV.<\/p>\n

But, for instance, the secondary romance in Delicious was written entirely from the heroine’s POV.\u00a0 That particular story could easily have been turned into a first-person POV narration, because the journey is largely hers.<\/p>\n

So my 2-cents conclusion, when the H\/H both have significant story arcs, you need to have both of their POVs.\u00a0 When he doesn’t need so much of changing and growing up and whatnot, then heroine first-person POV should work just fine.<\/p>\n

Writers of historical romance have to walk a tricky line between historical accuracy and effective communication with a contemporary audience.\u00a0 Readers — and writers — want to be able to sympathize with their heroines and heroes, so writers have to wrestle with, and sometimes defy, certain historical probabilities (for example, the prevalence, in other time periods, of certain beliefs about class, race, and religion to which we no longer subscribe).\u00a0 Diction also stymies me quite often.\u00a0 (Example: the verb “stymie,” which I adore, wasn’t used to mean “to impede, obstruct, or thwart” until 1902.\u00a0 Grr!)<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

How do you negotiate these often-conflicting demands?\u00a0 Or do you even see them as conflictual?\u00a0 To put it another way, how do you articulate the distinction between historical fiction and historical romance?\u00a0 What limitations — and possibilities — do you see within the genre with regard to critically exploring the less savory aspects of times gone by?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

The limitations–and possibilities–within the genre with regard to critically exploring the less savory aspects of times gone by is, er, determined by what I can stomach?\u00a0 And the distinction between historical fiction and historical romance is that I rarely read the former because their endings tend to suck?<\/p>\n

LOL, seriously, Meredith, you cannot have asked this question to a person who has thought less of these things.\u00a0\u00a0 But just for you, I’m going to scrape together the few thoughts I’d had over the years.<\/p>\n

As for critically exploring the less savory aspects of the past, my guide is PRIDE AND PREJUDICE.\u00a0 What does it explore?\u00a0 Nothing.\u00a0 Do I love it?\u00a0 I do.\u00a0 And I also look at the present.\u00a0 If I were to set a story in the present–and I have, my almost finished contemporary romance–would I be exploring the dark underbelly of American life?\u00a0 Nope.\u00a0 Am I aware of the dark underbelly of American life?\u00a0 Yes, I’m a pretty avid consumer of news and investigative reporting.\u00a0 Do I want to read about it in fiction?\u00a0 Not at all.\u00a0 And if I don’t want to read about it, why would I want to write about it?<\/p>\n

But I think I answered a different question than you asked.\u00a0 I think the darkness of history–history, period–holds more of a fascination for you than it does for me.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Then you can only use your own limitations as a test.\u00a0 How much grittiness, pain, and inhumanity can you put into a romance before an optimistic new beginning is no longer possible for you<\/em> to imagine for your characters?\u00a0 Write to that limit if you would like to challenge yourself as a writer.\u00a0 Half that if you want historical romance mainstream success.\u00a0 Somewhere in between if you are hoping for both.<\/p>\n

(Hey, nobody ever said it would be easy.)<\/p>\n

(Or was that even what you were asking?!)<\/p>\n

As for historical attitudes, I like to think I’m not writing bigots.\u00a0 That even if my characters held views typical of their era, they would not let those generalized prejudices trump human decency and kindness.<\/p>\n

Diction?\u00a0 Well, diction can go to hell.\u00a0 I look up just about every word I suspect isn’t old enough, even some I don’t suspect at all.\u00a0 Still, a more modern word or two might slip through and I’m actually okay with that.\u00a0 Think of it this way, do we expect our medieval authors to write in middle-English?\u00a0 Even Laura Kinsale’s For My Lady’s Heart<\/em> contained only modified middle-English.\u00a0 And a lot of Victorian idiomatic usage we wouldn’t understand at all.<\/p>\n

Riffing on that last question, do you think that it’s inevitable and even *requisite* to write heroines who are, in some way or another, proto-feminists?\u00a0 I ask, because I think you’ve done a great job of this; your heroines’ concerns and convictions feel familiar and sympathetic to me while at the same time feeling true to the period in which they live. How do you walk the line between creating a character who feels “progressive” for her time and a character who feels anachronistic or (to invoke a much-dreaded word) “feisty”? <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

I don’t think it is inevitable or requisite to write proto-feminists.\u00a0 The trick to making a heroine’s concerns and convictions feel familiar, I think, lies in her struggle for more control over her life and her choices.\u00a0 There is nothing remotely feminist about that primal human urge for freedom, security, and respect.\u00a0 It is a universal struggle.\u00a0 (What the feminists did was to force society as a whole to recognize that women had these same aspirations, that we deserved to have the same opportunities–the struggle itself is timeless.)<\/p>\n

That line between creating a chracter who feels “progressive” but still true to her time and a character who feels anachronistic or even feisty, ummm.\u00a0 Okay, assume your basic research is correct, you have the right feel for your era in your book, that line, I believe, lies in your heroine’s dignity or lack thereof.\u00a0 Lizzy Bennet still feels fresh and modern as a character today.\u00a0 Yet because of her dignity, intelligence, and restraint, she never comes across as wrong for her own time.\u00a0 The feisty heroines are the ones with no understanding of the consequences of their actions, they are the Lydia Bennets of the world, blithely dragging everyone into trouble and expecting to be patted on the head for it.\u00a0 Lydia, the original TSTL (too stupid to live) heroine, you will note, has no dignity whatsoever.
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What makes a book an instant wallbanger\/DNF (did not finish) for you?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Incompetence\/stupidity on the part of the heroine. <\/strong>And I’m not talking about IQ, but EQ.\u00a0 A woman without self-awareness and sound judgment is not going to be able to hold onto any kind of happiness.<\/p>\n

But that’s usually a mere DNF.<\/p>\n

If, however, the hero looks upon this paragon of TSTL and pronounces her extraordinary, then it becomes an automatic wallbanger.<\/p>\n

Finally, n<\/strong>ame a plot that you would never write yourself, but you would love to see written by a fellow author of historical romance.\u00a0 Why wouldn’t you write it, and why would you love to read it<\/strong><\/em>?<\/p>\n

LOL, anything I want to read, I will write myself.\u00a0 Stuff I wouldn’t write, menage for example, I am also not terribly interested in reading.<\/p>\n

Your question, however, makes me curious.\u00a0 What is it for you?<\/p>\n

Meredith: <\/strong><\/em>Oh, easy: a paranormal-ish romance set in Roman Britain.\u00a0 At present, my knowledge of the period is so slim that I can’t imagine writing it.\u00a0 But I’m thinking a starcrossed love between a Roman soldier (who\u00a0 — naturally — was raised and trained by Druids before he was rounded up and shipped off to Rome, where he learned to disavow his formerly “savage” ways) and the proud Celtic lass whom he once loved, and who is now devoted to fighting the evil Roman overlords to whom he has sworn allegiance!\u00a0 …I mean, just think of the fun possibilities.\u00a0 He is fighting down the magical powers he has long since repressed.\u00a0 She’s determined to reawaken him to his true self.<\/p>\n

And on top of that… they used a lot of oil in those Roman baths…\u00a0 \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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